Lee Carsley is out of his depth, England's attacking experiment has failed: Winners and losers as the Three Lions are tamed by Greece in humiliating defeat

We have to start at the top. Carsley won over the nation last month with a pair of 2-0 wins against the Republic of Ireland and Finland respectively, but he has all but emptied the credit he had in the bank again.

Eyebrows weren't only raised with his team selection, rather they were almost flying off the face a la Carlo Ancelotti. Kane's injury should have opened the door to Ollie Watkins or the recalled Dominic Solanke to start up front, yet the interim boss plonked Jude Bellingham and Phil Foden through the middle instead.

If that wasn't enough, Bukayo Saka, Cole Palmer and Anthony Gordon were also in the XI, with Declan Rice and Trent Alexander-Arnold providing more attacking support from deeper areas. The result was an alarming lack of balance and defensive solidity, rendering England inadequate at both ends.

Carsley took a big swing to try and show he's the guy to lead England forward, but instead was outed for an overeagerness that bordered on unserious. Even if the Three Lions had clung on to sneak a point at the last, the finger had to be pointed at him for a night of mayhem.

Kane's inability to return to training from a minor injury in time for Thursday's encounter sent the hot-take machine into overdrive. Column inches were filled with plans for the future, ousting the skipper to the side like yesteryear's plaything.

As it turns out, England do actually still need their all-time record scorer. They still need their on-pitch leader. You can't yank him out of the spotlight and expect the team to keep on rolling.

In the long-term, it might be for the best that Kane sat out Thursday's defeat, at last allowed a rest for his own good. But make no mistake, this England team are not a better one in his absence, and the doubters out there should set aside their blueprints of succession for the time being.

As already mentioned, a home game against Greece looked surely the opportune time to hand Watkins a start. The Aston Villa striker has delivered the goods at international level and was deserving of a go from minute one.

Alas, he was overlooked in favour of a double false-nine formation. Upon Watkins' introduction, England looked far more cohesive in attack, and he rattled the crossbar with his first touch.

He went on to play a crucial role in Bellingham's equaliser, bursting into a pocket of space in the right channel before pulling back the cross which fell to the feet of the Three Lions' Galactico. That ought to have rescued a draw for England, but their defensive unit had other ideas.

This was supposed to be a famous night for John Stones, but it turned into one of infamy. The stand-in captain had the honour of skippering his nation, only to blow the occasion with a whimper.

England's suspect defending stemmed from a lack of authority and control. You don't need a Tony Adams-type aggressor to succeed, but there has to be a bit of bite somewhere.

Stones was too passive even before he started chasing the shadows of transition during the second half. If anything, he backed away from the tormentor-in-chief Vangelis Pavlidis, who proved to be Greece's newest hero.

With a raft of younger centre-backs coming through and injury struggles continuing to haunt him, Stones' place in the starting XI is far from secure ahead of the World Cup in just over 18 months.

Why always Phil? Actually, why never Phil? That seems to be the question when he's wearing an England shirt.

Once again, Foden flattered to deceive while representing the Three Lions. For all of his talent and all of his ability, he was unable to make a mark on proceedings, let alone take them by the scruff of the neck as so many have wished and expected of him.

Of all of England's attackers on Thursday, Foden was by far the least threatening and least willing to get involved. His place in the side was already in jeopardy and this latest offering will have done little to fend away that notion.

We started at the top, we're ending at the top. For much of his tenure, previous England boss Gareth Southgate was criticised for his reluctance to play all his attacking cards at once.

Well, here was a timely reminder that you can't just throw all of your forwards onto the pitch at once and expect them to conjure up some magic. There is a nuance to international football that Southgate picked up on and he will receive some overdue praise for striking that balance.

The time was right for England to move on from Southgate and take the handbrake off a little, but the best teams historically have played with extra caution rather than extra freedom. Carsley and the FA should take note of that.