Pressed on what he was looking for from a switch in 2023, having struggled for game time at Milan, Dest added: “I needed a coach that believes in him and wanted to go give me minutes. I needed to play. That’s the only way I can show myself and prove people wrong. I needed a warm environment, honest people around me. I knew Earnie already from a couple of years ago and it felt good. It wasn’t only Earnie, even the coach started texting and calling me. Then, [PSV president] Marcel Brands started texting and calling me. I thought ‘wait, we’re going to play Champions League with this team, we are going to be champions’. I thought ‘okay, if I’m going on loan these are the things I needed, so why not?’"